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[–]FrowningSheep 161 points162 points ago

For those of you complaining about the umpires just guessing his call, they watched the replay to make sure he made the right call. Which in the end he did. The runner was clearly safe. (Ichiro Suzuki)

edit: I wrote refs instead of umpires because I'm a dumbass. Thanks kmklym.

[–]Parks1993 8 points9 points ago

Ichiro isn't number 51 anymore? :(

[–]ThunderfuckThor 19 points20 points ago

That's Bernie Williams' number

ninja edit Yes he's retired but it might be out of respect or something idk the dude played all 16 years of his career with the yankees

[–]blackhawk465 1 point2 points ago

Looks like they didn't officially retire it.

[–]laaabaseball 9 points10 points ago

out of respect

Lots of players change numbers upon moving to a new team, when a player was well-respected by the team but the number wasn't retired yet.

Ichiro spent some of his time on Monday discussing uniform numbers with Rob Cucuzza, the club's equipment manager. Ichiro's No. 51 may be iconic in Seattle, but when embroidered on pinstripes, it evokes Bernie Williams -- and no Yankee has worn it since. Ichiro yielded, selecting No. 31 instead.

"Of course No. 51 is a special number to me, but when I think about what 51 means to the Yankees, it's hard for me to ask for that number," Ichiro said. "I'd like to have a new number and then make that my own."

(Source)

[–]jsmith212600 1 point2 points ago

Mariner No. 51 will always be Randy Johnson to me!

[–]laaabaseball 4 points5 points ago

This is another thing that can potentially be a problem. The Mariners didn't give out Johnson's number 51 from 1998 to 2001, but Johnson is likely a future Hall of Famer (eligible in 2014), but Ichiro too is likely a future Hall of Famer, and the Mariners would likely retire Johnson's number, but have to later add on Ichiro to their team Hall of Fame. It will all be a huge controversy for nothing I bet :)

[–]APWTSIS 2 points3 points ago

Why would it be a big issue? I don't see why it would be to associate the two numbers with both men if they played for the Mariners at different times and the number was retired after both men retired.

(I also know nothing of baseball and I'm doing this on my ideas of how the NHL retires numbers...although...I've never heard of having two players who wore the same number have it retired by the team for both men)

[–]Cesar4324 0 points1 point ago

The Yankees have two number 8s retired, not really a big deal

[–]APWTSIS 0 points1 point ago

I didn't think it would be a big deal, tbh. They both used the number. Unless it's done league wide like 99 is for the NHL I don't see why you can't throw two banners or plaques up with the same number. Are people really going to go out and say, "HEY! insert hall of famer wore that one and you retired it! You can't retire it twice! insert lengthy non-fact driven rage out rant"

[–]Splitzy 1 point2 points ago

He's not a Mariner anymore.

[–]kmklym 46 points47 points ago

They're called umpires.

[–]GrimLP 120 points121 points ago

[–]timstm 5 points6 points ago

[–]TbanksIV 3 points4 points ago

Vampires?

[–]VeryWrongImpression 2 points3 points ago

Day vant to suck your stats!

[–]PIG20 4 points5 points ago

They didn't "overturn" anything on replay as scoring plays are not review-able unless its a controversial home run or fan interference. You are correct though, he was safe. The main argument was that Ichiro was outside the base path to avoid the tag. I was sitting under cover so there were monitors showing the TBS feed. Weiters may have nicked him but it was way too close to tell. The ump made the right call.

I was there and the Yanks still lost! The Yard was insane last night! Go O's.

[–]IVEGOTA-D-H-D-WHOOO 3 points4 points ago

They don't do that in baseball. They can have a conference, but they can't overturn a call based on replay unless it's a homerun. Technically they did watch it, I'm sure, but only either on the scoreboard or after the game solely to try and be better umpires.

[–]juniorpoprox 2 points3 points ago

Doesn't matter. Y's still lost.

[–]be_cool_honeybunny 0 points1 point ago

giggle

[–]macnel28 45 points46 points ago

as an official baseball umpire, reading these comments are hurting my brain

[–]laaabaseball 7 points8 points ago

That's pretty cool, where do you/what league do you umpire if you don't mind me asking?

[–]macnel28 15 points16 points ago

I umpire in Moose Jaw, Saskathewan but I do National Championships all over Canada

[–]Disguised 3 points4 points ago

Woo Moosejaw! Don't here that name on here often

[–]WhyAmINotStudying 3 points4 points ago

I'll try to drop Moosejaw in more often for you in the future.

[–]APWTSIS 1 point2 points ago

I see what you did there. All I had to do was look right across Saskatchewan. It wasn't difficult.

[–]ShakeableHippo 2 points3 points ago

As someone who lives in Saskatchewan I can verify that.

[–]VPinecone 4 points5 points ago

the way you only used one "hear" confused my brain for like 20 seconds.

[–]khaddy 6 points7 points ago

Woo Moosejaw! Don't here that name on hear often

FTFY

[–]VPinecone 1 point2 points ago

Based on the upvotes your sarcasm went right over my head >.>

[–]khaddy 1 point2 points ago

I attempted to correct his misspelling to ease your brain troubles, when in fact I not only failed to do that, but also introduced a second misspelling!

The FTFY was indeed aiming for irony, but I was not conveying any contempt towards you good sir :)

[–]VPinecone 0 points1 point ago

Gotcha :)

[–]hawksterdh 4 points5 points ago

I second this. I officiate in Texas and its frustrating and mind boggling to me how people just do not know what they're talking about. It's just so different then the people who I associate with, etc. and it's difficult to explain.

[–]theonescd 3 points4 points ago

May I ask to which comments you are referring?

[–]macnel28 3 points4 points ago

none specific, just people not understanding the simplest rules

[–]1-800-redditorb 2 points3 points ago

So in your opinion, should he have been called out? Also, what level do you umpire at?

[–]macnel28 4 points5 points ago

no, he was clearly safe, catcher never touched him. I umpire at the midget, junior, and senior level

[–]TheSmartestMan 8 points9 points ago

Now I want to see a midget baseball game.

[–]yung1522 1 point2 points ago

Is he really allowed to run around in a circle anywhere around the plate? Would the limit of running out of the baseline be called if he would have touched the grass?

[–]alepov 1 point2 points ago

Excuse me, but is "midget level" for actual midgets or is it just a name for kids league or something?

[–]Sinopsis 0 points1 point ago

Skype highlights your username for me ಠ_ಠ

[–]Cheeze_wiz 1 point2 points ago

As an ex-unofficial baseball umpire, trying to make that call would hurt my brain.

[–]contactfive 0 points1 point ago

Yup, angry parents and drunk kids are bad enough when the call is an obvious one. This might incite a riot in some Texas towns.

[–]Cheeze_wiz 0 points1 point ago

Trying to ump an entire game of coach pitch myself was hard enough. I could never get close enough to any base to have a good view of the call I had to make. And those parents are fucking nuts. It nearly ended up a riot... over COACH PITCH BASEBALL. THE DAMN KIDS ARE 8!

[–]contactfive 2 points3 points ago

Yup! That's the extent of my umpiring experience as well, never had to call balls or strikes but still got chewed out for the dumbest things.

I do remember my boss having to throw out one coach for screaming at me because he thought his son was safe at first, and I was trying to make the call from behind home plate.

I mean come on, I was doing the best I could, and if I started changing plays at the whims of whoever yelled the loudest it would have been open season. Plus, you're right, the kids were too young to care half as much as their asshole parents, they were just playing to have fun, so at the end of the day I didn't feel bad flubbing a call or two.

[–]Cheeze_wiz 0 points1 point ago

I mean, the kids were super good about knowing if they were out or not, but the coach was an ass and made them wait for my call. He got written up by the security guard there, and then banned from coaching again. Over what you may ask? The 5th pitch was a little high. If the batter had been swinging, I would have given another pitch, but wanting to keep the game moving, I called that batter out because they hadn't swing at anything. How much is a little high? Like 3 inches. Still very hittable.

[–]Willcagney313[S] 0 points1 point ago

as a ball player myself I agree

[–]ThisRedditorIsDrunk 27 points28 points ago

Don't care what team he plays for now. Ichiro is one of my favorite players in MLB.

[–]amazoncon 4 points5 points ago

Watching Ichiro was an experience we'll remember in our old age, because he was not just another great ballplayer. His athleticism was like blending baseball with karate, or yoga, or something else almost impossibly flexible and (forgive me) Zen. No other player I've ever seen could twist his arms mid-swing to aim the ball in the proper direction for a solid single. It always looked as though he could read, react and adjust mid-pitch.

I lost count of the number of times he beat out infield singles because his speed and never-give-up hustle caused opponents to rush their throws. His humility and dedication to his team, even as they collapsed year after year, was a rare thing too. I admired him.

[–]laaabaseball 6 points7 points ago

Ichiro is the only reason I've been watching the Seattle Mariners the last few years. Sadly, I no longer have a reason to.

[–]lorywindrunner 2 points3 points ago

Seattleite here. Ichiro has done great things for us but his time is up. He has gradually been worse and worse over the years, he was like our 5th in the lineup before he left. It still is sad to see him gone though.

[–]TheSmartestMan 4 points5 points ago

He got 178 hits this year at .283, while switching teams in the middle of the year. Your assessment of when a player's time is up is deeply flawed.

[–]thernkworks 1 point2 points ago

Batting average isn't the be all and end all. Ichiro only hit .261 this season with the Mariners, and the coaches felt pressure from ownership to keep batting him leadoff. His OBP with the Mariners was .288, which is truly horrible for a leadoff hitter. Most importantly, we had a couple young OF who needed a chance. Even if we kept him and he did well, Ichiro would probably never be on a playoff-caliber Mariners team.

[–]TheSmartestMan 1 point2 points ago

Point was a decline in skills does not equate the end of a career. He may not be the best anymore, that doesn't mean he's done.

[–]thernkworks 0 points1 point ago

Well sure, I think we basically agree. Everyone knows that Ichiro can still perform at a major league level. But he's a marginal starter and the Mariners can't afford to keep a so so 38 year old.

[–]lorywindrunner 0 points1 point ago

Oh you must be correct. I must of been watching some other player on my team for the past few years. Apologies.

[–]TheSmartestMan -1 points0 points ago

I am correct. Somebody who gets 178 hits and a .283 average is not done. Sure he's not the same guy he was 5 years ago, but he's obviously not washed up. Playing for a shitty team year in and year out can take a toll on a guy. 67 games with the Yankees and he hit .322. Because he was finally excited to play again. You said his time is up. That statement alone was incorrect, and that's what I replied to.

[–]lorywindrunner 0 points1 point ago

I didnt say he was "done". Im not saying he is a bad player and should retire now. I am saying his time with the Mariners is over. Get off your high horse its sick. You have little to no knowledge of what has been going on and how things have been evolving over the years here, he just isnt a fit anymore.

[–]TheSmartestMan 0 points1 point ago

High horse? I've been a Mariners fan for 25 years. If you meant his time with the M's is over, then you should've said that. His time with the Mariners was over a long time ago. And by the way, the condescension of your replies, along with the fact that you downvote me for disagreeing with you, leads me to believe that you're just a jerk that doesn't like people disagreeing with you. Grow up and learn how to have a constructive conversation. People like you are what's wrong with Reddit.

[–]laaabaseball 2 points3 points ago

I'm an Angels fan, and I always enjoyed watching him when the Mariners came to town. Here's some stalkerish pics I took of him and other Angels players while sitting in right field at Angel stadium. This was also Mike Trout's first game which is why I was there :)

[–]shtfuk 3 points4 points ago

it's not really stalkerish when they're accepting your money so you can sit there and watch them

[–]andshewas_45 31 points32 points ago

Tag! You're it! No tag backs!

[–]Useless_Wooden_Boy 14 points15 points ago

Anti-quitsies. You're it, quitsies, no anti-quitsies, no startsies!

[–]Relvnt_to_Yr_Intrsts 0 points1 point ago

what are these bullshit rules? I've only played no tag-backs

[–]Crayth 4 points5 points ago

It's from Dumb and Dumber.

[–]andshewas_45 2 points3 points ago

I just laughed into my Chardonay!!!

[–]lnenad 4 points5 points ago

Quite!!

[–]dumsumguy -1 points0 points ago

Indubitably Sir.

[–]ZeGentleman 2 points3 points ago

Sir....did someone call for a gentleman??

[–]BlankittyBlank 1 point2 points ago

You can't do that!

[–]Crayth 0 points1 point ago

Can too!

[–]thatoneguy889 1 point2 points ago

At least link the scene from the correct movie.

[–]See_Em 8 points9 points ago

You're never gonna catch me, you're wasting your time.

[–]ajvalen2 4 points5 points ago

Very fast timing on that one.

[–]vsal 2 points3 points ago

15 minutes, tops

[–]karmaisdharma 4 points5 points ago

Is the catcher not allowed to just lay on the plate so the runner can't touch it?

[–]laaabaseball 2 points3 points ago

Hard to say. If he has the ball he can pretty much block the plate. If he doesn't it would be interference.

[–]draculthemad 1 point2 points ago

He can, and that will pretty much force the guy to run back to third. If the catcher is laying down he's also going to have problems getting back up to throw it.

Also, runners are allowed to run into him full tilt to try and force him to drop the ball too.

[–]pascalbrax 0 points1 point ago

AFAIK it's now forbidden to "jump over" the catcher, is that right? Does it apply here?

[–]wildfyr 0 points1 point ago

Uh, theres no rule that you cant jump over the catcher.

[–]pascalbrax 0 points1 point ago

So, is this frequent in national games?

[–]wildfyr 0 points1 point ago

hahha no, in the majors usually they just slam into the guy and hope that the ball gets knocked out if the play is close. Even more frequently they will just stop and get tagged if they are going to be out by a mile.

[–]Ytiradilos 1 point2 points ago

He absolutely is. As a catcher you have the right to block home plate, but I think his natural instinct after missing the tag was to go for the tag again. Wieters is a young dude in his first playoff appearance, so his mind was probably racing a bit there, and not to mention, it's a pretty strange play.

[–]karmaisdharma 0 points1 point ago

Makes a lot of sense now, thanks!

[–]athrix 0 points1 point ago

He could do that but if he did it too late he could get some bonus cleats in his skin. Or if he did it too early he wouldn't have a chance for a squeeze, also he would look ridiculous sprawled out over home plate.

[–]Espressojet 4 points5 points ago

No matter how many times I watch it... He always gets away...

[–]Lakers2416 6 points7 points ago

Oh, Ichiro...

[–]67Macavelli91 16 points17 points ago

Why is it an out if you run inside the baseline but all of this is ok?

[–]thirdeyevision 28 points29 points ago

i think you get three feet on each side of the baseline. at home plate i think you can go anywhere there is dirt or within the semi circle of white chalk around the area.

[–]hawksterdh 21 points22 points ago

It's anywhere within the dirt.

[–]theonescd 11 points12 points ago

Please cite the rule for this. The base running rule states 7.08 Any runner is out when -- (a) (1) He runs more than three feet away from his baseline to avoid being tagged unless his action is to avoid interference with a fielder fielding a batted ball. A runner’s baseline is established when the tag attempt occurs and is a straight line from the runner to the base he is attempting to reach safely;

This makes no exception for home plate. The baseline is three feet to the left or right of where you are when the tag is initiated and is a straight line to the next base, which in this case would be home plate. If there is a rule granting an exception I have not found it.

[–]jeffmolby 3 points4 points ago

For the record...

Tag attempt, which establishes the baseline

Runner a full body-length away from said baseline

And most importantly, this kind of play isn't a fluke application of the rules. The baseline rule was written for the sole purpose of stopping guys from evading tags in this manner.

[–]downvotesmakemehard 0 points1 point ago

RUNNER'S

So what else did you modify from the original text?

[–]theonescd 0 points1 point ago

That is the original. Look for yourself.

[–]1-800-redditorb 4 points5 points ago

Dude I've never heard this. I think theonescd is right. He shoulda been called out.

[–]parkinsg 0 points1 point ago

If the caught ball (or i should say player holding caught ball) touches the base, they're out, right? Does that apply to home base as well or just the three regular bases? No one ever explained that to me in all my years of kiddy baseball. It caused me lots of problems.

[–]ThisRedditorIsDrunk 20 points21 points ago

Forced outs (touching the base with possession of the ball) only happens when the runner is forced to run. This is true of any base. A runner can be forced out at home plate but only if the bases are loaded.

[–]parkinsg 3 points4 points ago

Wow. I had no idea those were the rules. Thanks!

[–]zodar 3 points4 points ago

Only on a force play. If the baserunner could be safe at home or third, they have to tag him to show that he's caught off of a base. If he could only be safe at home, they just have to get the ball there first.

[–]ziggmuff 6 points7 points ago

It doesn't matter. It was a Yankee doing it so it's legal.

[–]snoharm 9 points10 points ago

I don't like that team, therefore they cheat. Sound.

[–]Relvnt_to_Yr_Intrsts 5 points6 points ago

Well, only when it's the yankees

[–]Harikari_13 1 point2 points ago

I don't really know baseball but I know you have to be within 3 feet of the line right? I'm assuming that big circle around home plate means as long as the runner is within that circle it's fair game? That's just speculation

[–]akgreenman 1 point2 points ago

You have to establish your line. I assume you're referring to the Atlanta game - he was running on a line then swung inside before he was hit with the ball. No bias here, I'm a lifelong Braves fan, as disappointed as the rest.

[–]johnnyTauc 1 point2 points ago

TIL: I asked the same thing - had to look it up and learned something new about a game I've played since I was 4. The baseline is NOT the line between the bases. The "baseline," as the rules define it, is a straight line from the SPOT THE RUNNER IS STANDING to the base he is running towards WHEN A TAG attempt BEGINS. And the runner is allowed 3 feet left or right from THAT line. There's a little subjectivity to this, but if you watch the video, the runner STARTS about four feet below the chalked baseline when the tag attempt starts. He does a little hip shimmy to avoid the tag...OVERRUNS the base... but I don't believe he ever moved laterally more than three feet from his original line. The more you know!*** So theoretically, if it's not a force out... you could run to centerfield, sign some autographs, chat with your relief pitchers, and not be "out of the baseline" until someone attempts to tag you, at which point then you have to run toward a base and only have 3 feet left or right from that line to avoid a tag.

[–]LanaSays 11 points12 points ago

can you explain to me why he is safe? does the catcher have to touch him in order for him to be out? sorry I don't know what to make of this. :/ I want to learn though!

[–]alexanderfsu 14 points15 points ago

If it's a force out, they only have to touch the base (in this case home plate) to get an out on the runner. In this case, the runner (Ichiro Suzuki) had to be tagged to be called out because he made the decision (on whatever the play was) that he could possibly score a run, but also wasn't forced to advance to home plate if he didn't want to (you're only forced to run if there is a player behind you advancing to the same base where you are currently).

Hope that helps.

[–]LanaSays 7 points8 points ago

okay so as I understand it: in order to be called out the catcher has to touch the base, ball in hand. but in this particular situation, suzuki was on third and he could have stayed there, but he decided to run because of whatever reason and there was no one on second. in order for him to be out, the catcher has to physically touch him with the ball on home plate? does that rule apply on every plate or just home?

edit: added the bold

[–]alexanderfsu 5 points6 points ago

The catcher just has to touch him with the ball in his possession (and maintain possession - it can get knocked out of the glove/hand if they get hit hard enough) before the runner reaches the base.

The base running rules apply to all 4 bases. If someone on a base has a runner directly behind them, or are on 1st and the ball is hit in bounds by the hitter, the runner must advance. If no one is behind you (on 2nd, 1st is empty for example) you simply advance at your/your coaches discretion.

There ya go, you're a baseball pro.

[–]LanaSays 4 points5 points ago

do a lot of runners try to knock the ball out of the catcher's hand? are they allowed to try? do they often get caught?

[–]alexanderfsu 14 points15 points ago

I think the fairest answer is that it's highly based on the context of the play.

Say you're a big 'ol power hitter who really chugs along and probably won't get around a catcher, but it'll be right down to the wire if he gets the ball in time, then just ramming into the catcher full speed is good because you might get him before he fully secures the ball giving you a better chance to plow through him and knock it out.

You might also be a speedy lil guy who thinks "if I slide and reach at the perfect time I might be able to avoid him completely, and if I did run into him he's bigger than me anyway and he'll probably have the advantage." (Catchers are usually burlier guys who have some weight on them since they know this is a situation and they don't have to run around all over the place).

Depending on the situation it can be a great tactic, or as we saw with Ichiro here he chose to use agility because he's a small quick dude. They are allowed to try if the catcher is in their way though.

Side note: In one all star game, which determines which team gets home field advantage in the MLB finals a player (Pete Rose maybe?) barrelled through the catcher and broke the catchers leg effectively ending his career...and knocked the ball loose and scored a run.

[–]LanaSays 9 points10 points ago

is it an annoyance to guys when you have to explain sports to girls?

[–]alexanderfsu 9 points10 points ago

Usually the complete opposite actually. Someday you'll be stuck at a sports bar with some guy you're dating, or possibly he'll just be sitting on the couch watching some sport. Having any amount of knowledge about a sport will allow you to enjoy it more. And if you already have knowledge about it it may impress him. Alternatively, if you don't know and do ask questions it's something he can enjoy teaching you about and you may even enjoy together.

So next time you see some guy truckin his way to home plate and he trickily avoids the tag or knocks the ball out of the catchers hand you can give him a slap on the shoulder and say "Holy shit, did you see that awesome play!?"...and guys eat that shit up. I suppose this applies to any hobby/past time/interest though.

[–]sakibomb222 3 points4 points ago

Not for me. It shows she's interested in learning about the sport, plus it gives us one more thing to talk about.

Also, I like discussing rules with anybody because there are so many nuanced or rarely used rules that lead to interesting discussion and insights into strategies.

[–]talanton 0 points1 point ago

Not at all. Not overly into sports myself so was happy to learn the answers, but if a girl wants to know about anything of interest to me it's always a good thing. I love teaching, and having a woman I'm interested in be curious about my hobbies is a bonus.

[–]tk-809 0 points1 point ago

Previous 3 TL:DR; It is (generally although in some very crucial/tense moments...) not annoying to explain sports regardless of gender.

[–]LanaSays 0 points1 point ago

hahahaha i actually read every single reply and came to the exact same conclusion. tahnks tk-809!

[–]SmokeOrDie 4 points5 points ago

Side note: In one all star game, which determines which team gets home field advantage in the MLB finals a player (Pete Rose maybe?) barrelled through the catcher and broke the catchers leg effectively ending his career...and knocked the ball loose and scored a run.

It was Pete Rose... not only that, but that was back before the all star game determined home field advantage.

I love Charlie Hustle but... sometimes you have to back off a bit.

[–]paranoidkiwie 1 point2 points ago

And the more recent example of this type of play screwing over someone is Buster Posey for the Giants last year, where he ended up breaking his leg and tearing ligaments in his ankle, ending his year very early in the season.

video of that hit (only decent video I could find)

[–]Goonsrarg 0 points1 point ago

Yeah in this case, Ichiro is only a 5'10 170 pound 38 year old, facing the catcher who is Matt Weiters that is 6'5 240lbs. Very good decision on Ichiro Suzuki's part to use agility rather then brute force.

[–]feyo 1 point2 points ago

So a hitter could generally hit a ball 2 meters into the field, let somebody from enemy team get it, and still get homerun, IF he never gets touched?

[–]blackbird37 2 points3 points ago

no, because there's always a force-out on first base. He has to beat a throw to first. If the ball gets to first base before the hitter does he's automatically out. If he does get to first, all the defending team has to do is throw it to second base. It's kinda hard to avoid the tag when they already have the ball and about 90 feet (I guess?) of distance to get ready and position themself to tag out the hitter.

[–]MackLuster77 1 point2 points ago

It was Pete Rose, and the catcher was Ray Fosse. He separated his shoulder.

YouTube

[–]Lasers32 0 points1 point ago

It's not attempted by trickery, but by a body to body collision.

See, if your on the batting team, you have a right to a path to the base. In other words, if a defensive players is blocking your way, you can ram him.

This really only happens at home base. Since the catcher wants to be absolutely sure he tags the player without him hitting the base. Bonus that he's wearing heavy padding.

You tube some top baseball plays (not hits)... You won't be disappointed

[–]Major_Butthurt 0 points1 point ago

When do the spiders come out?

[–]Chitiwok 0 points1 point ago

That's correct. It applies to every base (first base is always a force out since you can't just sit at home plate after hitting the ball). For example, if a player is on first and trying to steal second (ball wasn't hit into play and he just runs) he must be tagged. If the ball is put into play on the ground, the player with the ball only needs to touch second base for the force-out, since the runner is forced to vacate first base for the batter.

Once you start explaining them, it becomes apparent that baseball has some of the most absurdly complicated rules in sports.

[–]KernelD 0 points1 point ago

It's every plate. The opposing team can only tag the base to get you out if you are forced to advance due to having a runner behind you or if you're going to first base (so you have nowhere else to go), otherwise they must tag you directly while you are not touching a base (whether the one you came from or the one you are going to). Also, though it never happens at the majors, if the runner behind you passes you that is also an out.

Generally the person going to third will keep going to home base if they or the third base coach believe they can beat the ball there. There is a coach on third base to give a signal to the player to stop or go based on what they see behind the player. In this case, that coach likely signaled Ichiro to go assuming that their speed would beat out the incoming throw but guessed wrong, though it's possible Ichiro didn't get a signal or ignored a stop signal. Either way, Ichiro managed to get lucky and get a run anyway.

[–]jlawl 9 points10 points ago

Glad the O's won. 15 motherfucking years and we have to deal with this circus bullshit.

[–]laaabaseball -1 points0 points ago

Bizzaros are crazy this year. Thank you for beating Texas :D

[–]Jamuraan 0 points1 point ago

Boo to you sir. Boo.

[–]laaabaseball 0 points1 point ago

Booing like Rangers fans booed Josh Hamilton I see :)

[–]Jamuraan 0 points1 point ago

I would not boo Josh

[–]Smokratez 1 point2 points ago

Didn't know playing tag is a sport.

[–]laaabaseball 0 points1 point ago

It's not. You've never actually watched a baseball game have you?

[–]good_human 2 points3 points ago

[–]loveNpeaceEric 3 points4 points ago

He was harder to catch than greased up deaf guy.

[–]edicool2012 -2 points-1 points ago

Imagine the 'Can't touch me' song with this.

[–]iRenegadez 0 points1 point ago

Second best Effort to score I've ever seen.

[–]goducks206 0 points1 point ago

I forget, it's a three foot radius away from the straight line between the bases that's considered safely within the base path, right? or is three feet wrong?

[–]YourCrohnie 0 points1 point ago

Comes from his ninja training.

[–]omnomcookiez -1 points0 points ago

So, the objective is to tag the opposing team with the ball?

[–]DoubleR90 0 points1 point ago

I was at this game last night and I have to say it was a very interesting first inning because of this play. We were all pretty pissed because it was a fantastic relay from right field and the ball beat Suzuki by a long shot.

Ultimately it turned out to not matter 'cause the we (the O's) won anyway!

[–]wotupmang 0 points1 point ago

Why does the guy with the glove not just camp that little square?

He could litterally stand on it and block the other guy!

[–]Bigdumbdumb[!] 0 points1 point ago

Because the ball was delivered to him up the line (where he starts in the beginning of gif).

[–]Bigdumbdumb[!] 0 points1 point ago

Also, the ball got there at the same time the runner did.

[–]Rasta_Man69 0 points1 point ago

I am not the biggest baseball fan so sorry for my question. Doesn't the runner have to run in a straight line to the base and cannot move to the side like that ? Or is it legal becaause the catcher went after him? Or did he not run out of the line too much kinda like a grey area?

[–]agorby00 0 points1 point ago

Odd, I watched a kid (teenager) do this exact same thing in a high school ball game and they called him out for running outside the baseline. (FWIW, he didn't go out of the baseline until he reached the batter's box, and went around the back of it like in the gif)

[–]Eetabeetay -1 points0 points ago

Can't believe no one's done this yet - http://baseballlol.ytmnd.com/

[–]bigbossodin 0 points1 point ago

All I can hear watching this is the "Zoidberg-escaping-trouble-mating-call" (aka The Three Stooges)

Whoop-Whoop-Whoop-Whoop!

[–]illvetis 0 points1 point ago

european person wonders: was he safe at the end?

[–]pranavbharara 0 points1 point ago

If you look back at the video, the guy on the ground chased the other player like a dog.

[–]tailboys1 0 points1 point ago

Cant touch this. DUN DUN DUN DA DUN DA DUN DA DUN

[–]DirtyMonday 0 points1 point ago

Man I miss watching my team play in the playoffs.

-Sad Red Sox Fan-

[–]frotorious 0 points1 point ago

Me, too.

-Sad Mets Fan-

[–]DirtyMonday 0 points1 point ago

I'd ask you to tell me that it gets better and it will all be ok, but unfortunately you'd probably just depress me more haha. Though I think our problems have a lot to do with our owners, just in different ways. Red Sox badly need to start from scratch.

Bonus: Shea Stadium is one of only about a half a dozen ball parks that I've visited other than Fenway. Mets vs. Expos, circa 1998, not exactly a barn burner but I had a blast.

[–]therhyno 0 points1 point ago

I watched this 15 times. Still not tired of it. I always wondered why this doesn't happen more and they always decide to crash into each other...

[–]Codyplax 1 point2 points ago

That was amazing, but I don't think you should be able to get out of the baseline.

[–]gizmoadolf 0 points1 point ago

Am I the only one thinking of 'greased up, deaf guy'?

[–]spock_block 0 points1 point ago

I didn't know tag was a serious sport

[–]mpavlofsky 0 points1 point ago

ICHIRO

[–]neinneinneinnein 0 points1 point ago

Is he supposed to catch him? European baseball noob here.

[–]dmj117 0 points1 point ago

The second I saw this, I thought to myself...."self, this will be on reddit tomorrow..."

[–]carlsaischa 0 points1 point ago

I have no idea what is going on, I didn't have the slightest clue that baseball included tag.

[–]GEN_CORNPONE 0 points1 point ago

Ichiro is such a gifted competitor. I miss seeing him in the Seattle uniform, but he clearly is thriving in New York. This was a great play, and great baseball.

[–]newtownkid 0 points1 point ago

can't you just tag the base?

[–]ThreeTwoFlu 0 points1 point ago

That only counts if the runner is forced to get to the next base because all of the bases behind them are taken. It is called a force out.

[–]snakehag 0 points1 point ago

O's fan here. He was safe, I was pissed, but dang it was funny/ exciting !

[–]coreyoc 0 points1 point ago

the most interesting play in baseball

[–]Emperor_NOPEolean 0 points1 point ago

I thought that the runner had to stay on the line (more or less) for it to count.

[–]aMyriadofGambits 0 points1 point ago

The title should have been "Can't touch this"

[–]embryologic 0 points1 point ago

Baseball, the most complicated game of tag ever invented.

[–]BatmansNygma 0 points1 point ago

Most baseball I've watched in my life. And I've been to like, 8 games.

[–]dawgpwnd 1 point2 points ago

Yankees are still losing

[–]witthefuck 4 points5 points ago

Good. Fuck the Yankees.

[–]dstnhanson 0 points1 point ago

Fuck the fucking Yankees! Can't win this year? Buy and bench every other teams players next year. Then every Yankee fan can get in a giant circle and jerk each others cocks cause the the Yankees are so "awesome".

[–]ShortWhiteFriend 2 points3 points ago

I went to a Twins vs. Yankees game at Target Field (i.e., the Twins' field) recently. Tons of Yankees fans in the crowd for some reason, and virtually none of them seemed to consider or care about the hometown fans. They cheered when the Yankees did things like ground into a fielder's choice (only one of you is out! YAY!), heckled Twins players, publicly proclaimed the Yankees' superiority over the Twins...really ruined the experience for a guy and his girlfriend just hoping to spend a Sunday afternoon relaxing with our favorite team. But hey, there's the whole Yankees attitude in a nutshell for ya.

Edit: I should point out that I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with cheering for your team even when they're the "away" team. But it's not like Twins fans are known for being particularly nasty. It felt like one of those situations where you say, "okay, fine, we'll have Uncle Joe join us for dinner -- I just hope he doesn't do that embarrassing thing he always does," and then he totally does it. Right it front of the kids.

[–]ksporbert24 0 points1 point ago

I'm from the Hudson Valley area in New York, so I'm a diehard Yankees fan. This was the EXACT opposite for me the first game after Ichiro was traded to the Yankees. I sat with my Posada shirt in the 300 section hoping to just watch the game with some friends when some older fools decided it would be a good idea to throw food and quarters at me through out the game.

Why?!?!?!?

[–]eroscoe1 0 points1 point ago

Try to look on the bright side, at least you got free food and quarters.

[–]70000 1 point2 points ago

Awesome, what was the verdict is this a point?

[–]Wheelchairdawg 7 points8 points ago

Yup, the guy just kind of sitting there signaled "safe" which means that it's a point.

[–]Bazingabowl 6 points7 points ago

A "Run".

[–]Wheelchairdawg 1 point2 points ago

Yes, I know this. I was just explaining it in terms that that guy would understand.

[–]AhhhClem 0 points1 point ago

No wickets lost either.

[–]Elriond 1 point2 points ago

In that case, what's the signal for out?

[–]timeel39 17 points18 points ago

Like you're punching a newborn in the soft-spot, but pulling your fist away fast enough so you don't get any brains on it.

[–]angrystoic 4 points5 points ago

basically this, as opposed to this

[–]kickassunicorn -1 points0 points ago

Lol suck it, Yankees.

[–]Ronin_90 -1 points0 points ago

This guy has a career in dodgeball

[–]xblitzkrieger -1 points0 points ago

ichiro too good!

[–]isysdamn -1 points0 points ago

This should be a note, I'd watch baseball regularly if there was more acrobatics... the game is like watching the security camera at HR block; Holy shit that guy got a deduction, wooo!

[–]zuisei -1 points0 points ago

Ichiro is the God of Tag

[–]Jumped_On_That -3 points-2 points ago

When he umps, he blocks the umpire's view, but somehow the umpire made a damn good guess and sold it.